Subject	Carlos, makes no diff to me if you feel it is unbelieveable
Posted by	B-Ster on December 15, 2002 at 7:39 PM
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In Reply To	thats almost unbelivable.. But I am sure true posted by Carlos Ramirez on December 15, 2002 at 04:57 PM
Message	as the results I reported above were exactly as it happened. I could actually go and bother Darren for the overlapped graph to put an exclamation point on this debate, but I'm not. I have no axe to grind here nor am I out to impress anyone with what I do or do not know about 2835's. What happened at the dyno is what happened at the dyno. You can choose to believe it or not. You crack me up sometimes. Let's be clear, I would not put the data up here or much less purchase the .87's for myself if I did not know EXACTLY what I was getting myself into with respect to lag as compared the .73's. Now, to answer your questions: Darren's car was 'warm' for the fist pull and was 'warm' for the second pull with the larger AR's. Both dyno's started from 3.5 K rpm's and 200 rwhp was achieved at 4.3 K rpms...for all practical purpose the exact same for both pulls. The beauty of having SW, Clint, Darren, Chris, Kean and 35 other single turbo'd / large twin'd Supras running around Austin is that you get an opportunity to see them on the dyno looking at various intakes/cams selection/tuning plays, etc.
Follow Ups	Sport 600's or GT2530's? - Woody75 (Denver) 19:20:41 12/14/02 Re: Sport 600's or GT2530's? - degradated 19:28:02 12/14/02 agreed...600's arent putting out the power...go 2530s (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 19:44:04 12/14/02 All your info is exactly what I was thinking. - Woody75 (Denver) 22:27:24 12/14/02 There is also the optional housing - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 23:20:15 12/14/02 Only problem with 80 rwhp is manifolds - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 09:53:56 12/15/02 Well...there was pretty knowledgeable people in the room - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 15:15:29 12/15/02 A/R is the cheapest thing to change, so that is a good - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 19:07:24 12/15/02 GT2530's! I have them, love them. - spotz 20:00:30 12/14/02 Second...described as the most efficant for the Z - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 22:57:20 12/14/02 PDjectZ 650 Dyno looked like a pretty damn fast spool lol :) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 23:30:42 12/14/02 Those are modded 650's not stock or bolt on parts - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 15:17:12 12/15/02 Yea, the RWHP was kinda shocking after how much done. (n/m) - ZBlacktt 15:27:41 12/15/02 With his motor set-up he could run - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 15:46:04 12/15/02 Who described tham as most efficient? - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 09:49:59 12/15/02 2835s or TD05-16Gs - Carlos Ramirez 20:19:41 12/14/02 why 35's? Bit overkill for just a street car isn't it? (n/m) - spotz 20:42:37 12/14/02 no its not.. cancel your brain washing.. :-) - Carlos Ramirez 20:57:40 12/14/02 Going to be no lag difference b/t the .73's and the .87's. (n/m) - B-Ster 23:39:41 12/14/02 yes there is bro :-) But we will know soon enough. - Carlos Ramirez 08:12:03 12/15/02 Here is how I KNOW that there is no lag diff b/t .73's and - B-Ster 11:00:07 12/15/02 thats almost unbelivable.. But I am sure true - Carlos Ramirez 16:57:32 12/15/02 Carlos, makes no diff to me if you feel it is unbelieveable - B-Ster 19:39:45 12/15/02 I think you misunderstood me.. - Carlos Ramirez 21:13:24 12/15/02 I wish I knew more about flow bench numbers.... - B-Ster 23:27:43 12/15/02 Price was not a factor for the 2 I listed. (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 21:20:08 12/14/02 i thought you needed a fully built motor for 2835's - ix3 21:34:22 12/14/02 That would be a good idea (n/m) - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 23:09:20 12/14/02 LOL, lets see price not a factor running 2835's... - ZBlacktt 23:27:39 12/14/02 and upgrade Ignition system,Rear diff,Water injection helps (n/m) - ZBlacktt 23:49:16 12/14/02 so add another $2000, so around $11,000 after turbos. (n/m) - ZBlacktt 00:08:42 12/15/02 plus labor. (n/m) - ZBlacktt 00:11:10 12/15/02 I ought to post a spreadsheet showing all project $$'s. (n/m) - B-Ster 11:10:55 12/15/02 You post one and I will post my costs. - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 11:20:06 12/15/02 Again, do not need. Why would you need a new Diff? - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 09:47:54 12/15/02 So your saying the rear diff can handle 700+lbs TQ - ZBlacktt 13:15:32 12/15/02 Kyle ran sub 1.8 sec 60' times with a NA rear endb - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 14:52:35 12/15/02 Since you want to read into every-thing, fine then. - ZBlacktt 15:21:22 12/15/02 I just reply when you state "what" is needed, - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 19:05:21 12/15/02 You don't need any of that stuff.. - Carlos Ramirez 08:18:34 12/15/02 maximize our build ups, ( Right ) - ZBlacktt 12:55:08 12/15/02 Well I must be an idiot, I am not doing any of that - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 09:42:19 12/15/02 BTW, my turbos are not HKS, but similar - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 09:43:35 12/15/02 I'm looking at the same thing now as well. - ZBlacktt 13:42:17 12/15/02 Not really, the HKS turbos are not that expensive - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 14:55:07 12/15/02 Why compare only these two? I'm partial to PE 1420s myself. (n/m) - teahead 22:52:36 12/14/02 Can you tell us why? (n/m) - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 23:07:19 12/14/02 flow charts show better spool and more hp than 2530s (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 01:04:23 12/15/02 Any Z32 dyno charts yet? - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 01:56:29 12/15/02 Yup a friend of mine put them on a year ago lol 1420s - gtclk 03:36:01 12/15/02 They flow right at ~40# vs. 33# for the GT2530 - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 09:39:09 12/15/02 I dont know much about them - SteamyZ(ZtoyZ.NET©) 15:27:49 12/15/02 If I had it ALL TO DO OVER AGAIN..... - B-Ster 23:33:17 12/14/02 I would have to agree..with a few changes - Carlos Ramirez 08:22:38 12/15/02 I guess you went with the GT2530s huh! - TARGETZ 23:42:11 12/14/02 No one would have outbid me......trust me on that :) (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 01:21:59 12/15/02 How about tec stg1 or Power extreme PE1420's> - Xi0nX4 (ohio) 01:38:31 12/15/02
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